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Kyl3Ruth
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| suhdude024 wrote: | fantastic to see people still squeezing these games. great work!
would love to see you attempt some gh1 stuff  |
If I FC ItO then I'll be FGFCing GH1. Otherwise I have no other intention for that game. It's hitbox is unlike any other game and I do not feel like putting in hundreds of hours to find out if I will be capable of squeezing it well enough to have 1st overall. But who knows, maybe I will find the game fun and end up seeing a path to 1st. Just saying, unlikely. |
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bushidox
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 3:12 am Post subject: |
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Well. Then. Insane WoR progression lately. You got a great 1st place today in the form of Holy Wars, bringing you up to 74/93 now. I think you can realistically get to 87/93 1sts with a FGFC. Your breakdown post is already outdated with the 14 new improvements you've made since just then on the 25th of June. Crazy stuff. Enjoying the relentless millstone that is your score optimizing!
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Kyl3Ruth
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 5:43 am Post subject: |
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| bushidox wrote: | | Well. Then. Insane WoR progression lately. You got a great 1st place today in the form of Holy Wars, bringing you up to 74/93 now. I think you can realistically get to 87/93 1sts with a FGFC. Your breakdown post is already outdated with the 14 new improvements you've made since just then on the 25th of June. Crazy stuff. Enjoying the relentless millstone that is your score optimizing! |
I actually could pull off a full game 1st here as I look at it now. Which six did you think I wouldn't be able to get 1st on? XD I will be going over 90/93 1sts for sure. |
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Kyl3Ruth
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 6:05 am Post subject: |
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| bushidox wrote: | | Well. Then. Insane WoR progression lately. You got a great 1st place today in the form of Holy Wars, bringing you up to 74/93 now. I think you can realistically get to 87/93 1sts with a FGFC. Your breakdown post is already outdated with the 14 new improvements you've made since just then on the 25th of June. Crazy stuff. Enjoying the relentless millstone that is your score optimizing! |
Also I updated the breakdown post here as well. As a general rule, where I'm going to end up will probably be higher than the community total is now. But if I end up 91/93 1sts or something like that, I'll be right around wherever the community total is then. So for GHVH about 8-9k above moose and for GHWoR it looks like over 20k ahead of moose. |
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bushidox
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Well, my estimation is that of the 5 hard songs you will eventually find 2 to be annoying enough not to go for 1st on them. So pick 2 of these 5 (my bet will be Black Widow and Chem):
Black Widow of La Porte
Chemical Warfare
Fury of the Storm
If You Want Peace Prepare for War
Sudden Death
Then, of the other 4, I think it will be 2nd place for you, on 4 of these songs (in before you get all these this week lol):
Aqualung
Bohemian Rhapsody
Ravenous
2112 Pt. 5 - Oracle: the Dream
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Kyl3Ruth
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:15 am Post subject: |
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| bushidox wrote: | Well, my estimation is that of the 5 hard songs you will eventually find 2 to be annoying enough not to go for 1st on them. So pick 2 of these 5 (my bet will be Black Widow and Chem):
Black Widow of La Porte
Chemical Warfare
Fury of the Storm
If You Want Peace Prepare for War
Sudden Death
Then, of the other 4, I think it will be 2nd place for you, on 4 of these songs (in before you get all these this week lol):
Aqualung
Bohemian Rhapsody
Ravenous
2112 Pt. 5 - Oracle: the Dream |
Went and got 1st on aqualung lol Bohemian Rhapsody and 2112 pt. 5 are just tick grinding. They will happen.
If you want peace prepare for war isn't in the big four hardest songs. After the big four you have speeding/ties that bind/if you want peace/you can still rock in america/this day we fight, all certainly a tier below the big four.
And if you want peace I can FC basically every time lol. There is like 500 left, 1st is not going to be a problem whenever I get around to it.
Sudden Death isn't a hard FC for me as well, I can get another 400-600 on a ReFC for 1st.
Black Widow is the least optimized song with near 2,000 left. 1st is free, I'm very good at squeezing the song.
Chemical Warfare has two tweaks worth 700 and 200, plus the 600 moose missed. JPrez has 1st on CW with 810,458 it just isn't posted on SH. I wouldn't consider any score below JPrez' to be 1st. I probably wouldn't reFC if I don't get 1st on my first FC. But 1st on my first FC of it is more likely than not.
On the other hand...
Ravenous 1st is a really good score, I can beat it, but it just will take many hours, all of the squeezes are near perfect, very easy to lose a run. That will be one of the hardest.
And ukog's fury of the storm score is about as good as his TTFAF score, so that's definitely going to be the hardest even with 1000 left there. That is the song that I am least likely to get 1st on. Since unlike GH3 TTFAF which I plan on reFCing in August for 1st, I probably will have no desire to ever ReFC fury. Fury and CW are the only two FCs I will have major issues with. |
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iAMhorribl3 
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You have done so well on WOR in such a short period of time. Ive been watching your progress and have been seeing a new 1st up on the home page almost daily.
I strongly believe if you wanted, you could take first on all songs on the game.
Stoked to see the CW first coming up. You should record it!
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Kyl3Ruth
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:59 am Post subject: |
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| iAMhorribl3 wrote: | You have done so well on WOR in such a short period of time. Ive been watching your progress and have been seeing a new 1st up on the home page almost daily.
I strongly believe if you wanted, you could take first on all songs on the game.
Stoked to see the CW first coming up. You should record it! |
oh chemical warfare could take months, who knows, it's possible now but could always be a longer grind than i'd want |
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bushidox
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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85 already! That was fast. Now that you got Ravenous, Lunatic Fringe and Bohemian Rhapsody, I feel your goal of at least 90 is looking very probable. Impressive work as always. Looking forward to you getting closer to your goals on this game.
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Kyl3Ruth
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| bushidox wrote: | | 85 already! That was fast. Now that you got Ravenous, Lunatic Fringe and Bohemian Rhapsody, I feel your goal of at least 90 is looking very probable. Impressive work as always. Looking forward to you getting closer to your goals on this game. |
I guess you underestimated me XD Lunatic Fringe and Ravenous were definitely hard though ngl. Now that I'm sitting at 86/93, I can comfortably say that I will easily go over 90/93, the only question is whether I will reach 93/93 1sts at this point. Whether I beat ukogmonkey's Fury of the Storm score or not is going to determine that as well. His score as it stands now is basically one of my scores lol. I don't know how else to put it, it's insane.
Ties that Bind, Black Widow and Chemical Warfare FCs are all ready to be done any run now as well, Fury I'm still not fully consistent at Solo G or I, so I'll probably leave Fury for last as I get the other songs out of the way. That way I'll be way more consistent at those two sections, and can hopefully go into Fury being comfortable with reFCing it.
Chemical Warfare I know I can reFC it if needed, I've choked 2D twice, choked squeezing the post-solo 2 act and choked in the outro, three of those chokes being yesterday... Near FC'd it three times essentially. And going into GHWoR, CW was by far my worst song, I wasn't close to hitting solo 1 especially, and now it is, well, reFCable. And I didn't expect to get this good at CW, I thought it would be one of those songs I can't expect to FC twice unless I'm going to grind for another month.
Hopefully Fury turns out this way is my point basically. If it doesn't and I just can FC it once and take that score, to just be blunt about it there is like a 25% chance I'll get 1st. Count on a first FC of Fury being 2nd place |
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Kyl3Ruth
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:24 am Post subject: GHWoR vs Moose Current Lead 07/21/22 86/93 1sts |
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I thought I would just add this here too with this horizontal format. In short, I'll definitely be over 20k ahead of where Moose left GHWoR. And if it isn't obvious, I should be getting 1st overall before the FGFC. |
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bushidox
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Nice breakdown! Even more impressive than your 86 1sts to me is the fact you are untied on 75 of them. Any plans on going for more untied 1sts while you are grinding the hard songs?
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Kyl3Ruth
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| Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| bushidox wrote: | | Nice breakdown! Even more impressive than your 86 1sts to me is the fact you are untied on 75 of them. Any plans on going for more untied 1sts while you are grinding the hard songs? |
I could try, my thought process has been on getting 1sts secondarily actually, and primarily just going for optimizing scores and hitting every squeeze in the game in my 1st place score, which I'm close to having done outside of the tough FCs. My thought process has always been why grind out 8 points to break a tie that I already have 1st on, when there are still squeezes left to be hit, 200 points vs 8 points. Like the GHWoR total score has gone from 34,602,595 on June 1st (granted I still had some untied 1sts and was adding around 500 to that IIRC) to now sitting at 34,616,308. Nearly 14k.
However, I have basically been bored enough to do exactly what you suggested, but I was only doing it for songs I like (example: Renegade) and also had an untied 1st on, or that wasn't that bothersome to beat the tied 1st on (Get Free, because it's short). I was only planning on beating I'm Not Okay (I Promise) and Pour Some Sugar On Me, the rest I was fine with.
But now that you mention it as a general goal to chop away at... Sure!
I will say that these cannot be beaten. As far as I know, they're optimal:
-Tick Tick Boom 335,167
-Slow Hands 337,570
-It's Only Another Parsec... 298,554 Edit: Done. I was wrong, found another 200.
-Bodies 482,546
-Waidmanns Heil technically is beatable with another 8 points left, but I am not going to do that unless I have to, activating right within that reverse tick squeeze did NOT come naturally to me, just a weird timing to it.
These two, sure, sometime I'll beat these, they won't be fun though (how much is left for optimal)
-I Know What I Am (8 left)
-Lasso (4 left)
Then these two I'll beat for sure:
-I'm Not Okay (8 points UNLESS last squeeze is possible, which I have been trying)
-Pour Some Sugar On Me (8-16 points UNLESS another 200 on the 1st act is possible, have gotten super close actually have been trying this) Edit: Done
And then Machinehead, quite an annoying song to squeeze I must say. I could maybe get another tick or two, but the glitching on that song was already hard for me to beat moose.
And then Aqualung has over 300 left, I'll regret leaving my score tied with moose just because, as I mentioned above, I mostly just want to crossout major points left in songs via squeezes not hit. Aqualung is not optimized, so yes I will eventually get around to it. Edit: Done
All in all, best case scenario would be 93/93 1sts and 88/93 untied 1sts. However if I happen to tie Fug's exact score on Bat Country, or ukog's on fury, I will be done with those songs lmao
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Jellu
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| Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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The total destruction of GHWoR scores has been very interesting to watch! Considering that you have TTFAF FC surely you can get this FGFC, waiting for the full game 1st place.
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