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**Javman158** · Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Posts: 640 Location: Fairfax, VA

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**Telal** · Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 70

What does:
4 - y/X SP

mean?

**elx** · Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 1657

In AA playoffs we had a twist on Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You Tonight where the stat seet had to show achieving 0/9 star power achieved. This is expanded to show mean showing a certain number of star power phrases achieved and missing the rest.

**RyuBlitz** · Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:22 pm Post subject:

Here's a couple potential twists...

- Over the top: Play the song w/ your fretting hand over the neck (as opposed to normally under it)
- Sound Interference(elaborated): Have headphones in, w/ iPod, CD player, etc. at >50% volume, playing a song of a contrary genre (Country opposite Rock, Rap opposite Blues, etc.)
- Match that Rank: Mod picks a random rank, and players try to match the score of the person at that rank (for that song, not overall)

-Ryu
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**wealreadyknow** · Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 399 Location: Amsterdam, NY

I'd like to sign up for Expert AA =]

**Kingofterrors** · Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 1993 Location: Odenton, MD

Put me in for Expert AA please

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**ES942** · Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Posts: 3445 Location: Snalbans

keep in mind that these "twists" are not all helping you achieve your high score. you don't have to get an optimal on every song in performance mode. the twists are meant to handicap the players, and spread out the points a bit, so as not to base it all on score.
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**JR626** · Joined: 13 Feb 2007 Posts: 1622 Location: Minnesota

The only ones I have a problem with is 1st and last runs, and score ending in xx.

With your 1st and last runs, it's not always your best effort. You should be able to post the best that you can do on a song.

With "score ending in xx", that's the worst one in my opinion. This has absolutely nothing to do with ability at all and you have a 1 in 100 chance of doing it successfully. There's no way you can control the last 2 digits in a score.
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**jerridthomas79** · Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 1266 Location: South Dakota

My take it that, Leagues are Ggrrrrreat!

Was averaging about 2 (for sure) personal best scores for songs played during league.

My only gripe is the twists in GH2 League A last season, with Performance Mode, followed up by Opp Hand. These just plain blow, not finishing a song, and submitted a percentage is no fun at all, and spending all that time playing with my g-tar on my lap, trying to tap it all out lefty was too damn frustrating.

I will say this, the <90% or whatever, no SP, and <70 note streak - these types of twist are MUCH more fun, there's strategy involved, plus you get to finish the song, which is always fun. I know the others are different and challenging n'all, but c'mon. It's only fun for few who can do it (and if you ask me, some of the people doing performance mode are playing a YouTube video in the background, syncing up with their song, so they can still see the notes, or even pulling up note charts.) whatever, i won't point fingers or complain, just saying, we should definately vote on say top 5 twists, and leave the others like opp hand and PMode OUT for good

Everyone who ran the leagues I have been in, GHII - A, and GHI - Expert have done a wonderful job. I can always depend on getting good results right away, and always have good correspondence.

I would maybe like to see 5 songs per week, or consider making the weeks shorter. Or, making the weeks shorter, with 4 songs, but make it 5 or 6 weeks (20-24 total songs before playoffs)

That's my take.
Wonderful work Javman on setting this up, and all the league commissioners.

PS - eliminate PMode and opp hand twists, I know they handicap, but still, no fun for 80% of us who can't complete the songs. (my opinion of course)
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**DrSham** · Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:48 pm Post subject:

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**Barbaloot** · Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 1583

Yes, naturally, everyone will have twists they like and don't like. However, two stand out as being particularly awful (and I would imagine loathed by many players), because they force an abnormally large time commitment just to get a score, period.

Performance mode - Many of us, including me, have more important things to do than sit in front of a notechart, memorizing it note for note. I imagine if this comes up as a twist, and it's not a song I already know very well, I won't bother submitting a score.

Last 2 digits - Okay, first let me go ahead and state that I have never in fact actually tried to get a score to end in a given pair of two digits, so if this is in fact easier than it seems, my argument loses some of its clout. However, from watching how fast the numbers change when I am on a hold, this seems very difficult and based on purely luck. With regular scoring, if you are having a great run and then mess up near the end, you may end up with a score a few thousand points below what it would have been. No big deal. However, if you let off a hold a millisecond early or late near the end of the song, you have completely nullified your entire run due to something that is essentially luck. If we are going to have this twist, why don't we have a "Dice Twist" as well: Play through the song. After you are finished and have your score in front of you, roll a die. If it comes up 6, you get to submit your score, and if it comes up anything else, your score doesn't count and you have to start over. The premise seems basically the same. (And for the love of god, I hope no one actually thinks the Dice twist is a good idea.)

I stated in my previous post that specifying what the hundreds and/or thousands digit (or even tens) must be seems to be better that specifying what the last digits must be. This still would require some sort of strategy, but it takes some of the sheer luck out of it. (I see a big difference between luck affecting to a small degree how well you do on a song, and luck affecting whether the score even counts.) Can anyone give me an argument against this change?
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