Neversoft Community Event - 9/10/08!

**Deimos** · Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 1344 Location: Calgary, AB

You also have to remember, this was last July. There was no Rock Band yet, GH80s wasn't even out yet.

If you compare GH3 only to GH2, there really were quite a few improvements. The interface is a lot cleaner, with a few problem such as having SP "bulbs" instead of a bar, but things like the setlist interface are much, much nicer. Being able to actually see what notes are HOPOs instead of just having to know, having a note streak indicator, etc. The HOPO system is off, but I'm not sure that you'd really notice that in a short play-session, or at least be able to really know what was wrong. You'd also have no idea about things like the early tick-squeezing and other small problems that the SH community has with the game.

Personally, I was completely satisfied with GH3 myself, until RB came out. I think most of us were. It's a fine game, I definitely don't hate it or anything, it's just that on most occasions, given the choice between playing GH3 or RB, RB almost always wins out. It's mostly the replay value of GH3 that people seem to complain about, and like emptyset said, they had around 4 hours to play it, it's impossible to figure things like that out so quickly. You're only playing each song once, you can't really be thinking "will I want to play this song 100 times?", you're just going "oh nice, La Grange, I love that song! That was pretty fun, what's next?".

Regardless, I'm sure some interesting facts will come out of this trip for the SH community, the type of stuff that doesn't appear in magazine write-ups. There's plenty of questions that only the really serious players even know to ask, so hopefully we'll be able to get some information about that kind of thing for you guys. There's a lot of cool potential with the liveblogging, so I'm personally really looking forward to seeing what we can do with that.
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**thedevilsreject** · Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:41 pm Post subject:

Wow, I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone, nor envisage the kind of response I would get; there is nothing wrong with my personal attitude thank you very much, I definately don't expect to be on the recieving end of an Ad hominem from a moderator.

You refer to it as a positive review of a beta product which is a pretty mild understatement. Reading through there is nothing, I repeat nothing negative said about the game. Probably the fairest review comes from GT1T, and I appreciate that everyone has differring opinions on games, but if i went trawling through websites reviewing GH3 I very much doubt I would find too many that see it as pretty much perfect.

Back then I would have liked to have known what was discussed at the table meeting to know what sorts of things would looking iffy with the game as well as what was positive. I definately agree with the reviews that the Les Paul controller is awesome, that the graphics are a great step up from GH2 and that there is a very nice setlist even if the difficulty curve in the main setlist is flawed. However there are still many problems with the game, which i won't go into seeing as it's going off-topic.

Again I'm sorry if I offended you in anyway, and in hindsight probably shouldn't have made the post even if I think it's a valid point. I look forward to to reading about GH:WT anyway.
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**Barfo** · Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 2596

**thedevilsreject** · Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:26 am Post subject:

God damn, I tried to leave this, heck I even apologised but whatever. If you want to call it a preview than that's fine by me, my original point still stands that there was a complete lack of anything....again I repeat anything negative which at the time felt rather disconcerting. You misunderstand if you think I want the game taken to the cleaners, like I said there were many positives and even as a review I would say that GH3 was a very good game. All I want is a little more balance, pointing out some flaws doesn't mean you don't like the game for crying out loud.

But still seen as you made a deal with differentiating between review and preview I did decide to go look up some old previews for GH3.

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/792/792801p2.html

Gives a lot of positives but also a few negatives over problems with the timing windows etc etc. However at the time they are sure that it would be fixed. Is that the sort of thing that could not be included?

http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=1396

Official Xbox Magazine slammed battle mode even in the preview. Now this one is different to the first in that it's opinion but it still shows that even at pre-production you can include negativity in it. Like I said I do not want it trashed for past time, just some more balance in it. Now I really don't want to continue with this but if you do then whatever.
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**xBERETHOR222x** · Joined: 12 Aug 2008 Posts: 2

please give us some good info on the song creator bc it looks really fun

i r going to be so

when GH:WT comes out

**DarkFoxMrd** · Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 326

I wish I could be here to meet you guys... but I'll be on my honeymoon while you guys are gone! Sad sad.

**sluggo** · Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 850

**thedevilsreject** · Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject:

I really can't be bothered to argue with this anymore, one person, two people, heck even three is ok, however it's pretty obvious im going to have to face everyone who did a review and it's not something I have the inclination to do. If you think people were lukewarm about their response to battle mode I suggest you go back and read the thread. I won't link anything, I don't want to.

I realise the wording of my first post in the thread was wrong and I apologise for that, but I stand by the point I made. There really is nothing more for me to say other than me repeat what I have already said to emptyset and Barfo, and I'll likely have a couple more of you guys come here as well so like I said I'm out.
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**sluggo** · Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 850

I did look at the thread from last year. Some people liked Battle Mode, and some people -- myself included -- absolutely had a "meh" reaction to it. I'm not sure what was wrong about that.

I know it probably feels like people are piling on you here, but it was actually Apples' comment that bugged me more. I thought GH3 was an awesome game with a few flaws that would only be considered minor to Expert players, but that post sounded like a guy who thought GH3 sucked and is bearing a grudge that more p/reviewers didn't agree or "warn" him months in advance.
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**Barfo** · Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 2596

**Savaged** · Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject:

1 week left to go!

**HellAshes** · Joined: 06 Apr 2006 Posts: 8320 Location: Livingston, NY

**GuitarGeek08** · Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 3213

Hopefully some one checks out the fretboards, to make sure there isn't anything like the Joe Perry one (Neversoft O in logo type). How did that fretboard ever get into the game...
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Xpertlefty13 quoting me in his Acc Thread wrote:

Honestly, thank you

This is the first real, well thought-out explanation I've seen

**thedevilsreject** · Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject:

**Cjmainy** · Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 394

Hope you enjoy it guys.

I'll be stuck at school, whilst you guys are doing the exact thing I'd give anything to have the chance to do.